-- Guest Lecture --
              Bill Hunt, Mike Kelley, Tom "Jake" Jacobs
                A Chat On Mandatory National Service

[Saturday Afternoon, June 3rd, 2000]

Tom "Jake" Jacobs, responded next, which sent both Mike and Bill and Tom into a chat mode. Tom is a former Vietnam Vet, USMC 3rd Recon. Years later, after leaving the Marines, he joined the Army National Guard, of all things, and his unit was activated (surprise) for service in Bosnia. He returned in May of this year, after 8 months of bag time.

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"The village was called Sultanavici, just west and south of Zvornic, near the Drina River which separates Bosnia from the Former Yugoslavian Republic (FRY) which some call Serbia.

The villager was trying to rebuild his house and return to the valley where he was born and raised. However, about once an hour, six days a week, eight hours a day, a truck full of Zvornic garbage would roll down the dirt road that winds through the valley and dump its load near his house. Occasionally one of the trucks would be a FRY military vehicle illegally on the west side of the river. The day before, one purposefully backed into his house before rolling back to FRY country. The valley is covered with smoldering garbage.

There was a running battle in the valley in 1995 when Srebrenica to the south fell. Earlier that day the villager showed us two mass graves and a skeleton in the woods near his house. We wrote down the information to report the sites while we listened to him, surrounded by flies and stench and acrid smoke.

"See that house up there," he said through an interpreter. "The white one on the ridge? They killed approximately 600 people there. Just rounded them up and killed them. Women and children too".

The flies buzzed and the garbage burned. "First they came and took our weapons," the villager said. "They told us we would be safe and we believed them. Why not? Both my brother and I served in that army. It was our army. How could we not trust them?"

The villager's voice and gestures had the quality of confession. He wasn't complaining as much as venting. He just needed to tell somebody. "After they took our weapons," he said, "they began to round us up, separating the men from the women and children. Then the killing began. 

Men in the same uniform I wore. We fought them. We had a few hunting rifles. My brother and myself and others." He pointed up the valley in the direction of Tuzla. "Who could escape, did", he said. "Many died." He looked at me, then he looked at his house, then he looked at the garage.

Could it happen in the United States? Until that morning in Sultanavici I would have said "no." Never in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. But it did happen in Bosnia, when a large portion of the country's military turned east while the country's citizens turned west. 

Later that morning, I was preparing to go with the villager and the interpreter up the side of the valley to the site of another mass grave and a spot where I could take pictures. There was really little danger, yet I was there to photograph license plates and faces. Someone could take exception to my behavior. That's why I had two vehicles full of military police up the valley and out of sight. I slapped a magazine in my rifle and chambered a round.

The sergeant in charge of my body guards said "Don't let my people see you do that." I could tell he was displeased but I outranked him and his only reason for being there was to protect me and the interpreter. "I don't let my people 'lock and load,'" he said.

"Well, if I need it," I told him, "I want it to work right away." I took off following the villager knowing my body guards would not get off the first or second or even third shot should there be trouble. It's hard to explain, but there was a distinct lack of aggression in the troops detailed to protect me.

I had the impression they were conducting a training exercise and would stop the mission should anything happen to jeopardize troop safety.  I got the  impression that, if the Serb military shot at me, the body guards would cancel the mission and return to base to file an unfavorable report. Walking behind the villager up the side of the valley, I felt like one lonely VietVet.

Months later, I was back in the States and speaking to a high school class about my experiences in Vietnam and Bosnia. After fielding the inevitable "did you kill anybody" and "what's it like in combat," we got on the subject of duty and service. "We confuse rights with privileges," I told them. "We really have few rights, but we are a very privileged people. In fact, the world envies us our privileges, not our material goods. In the three former communist countries I've visited, when the people there talk about the States, they talk about the freedom to go anywhere and the opportunity to do almost anything. They don't talk about the cars and the clothes and the houses."

Their faces were sullen. I had broached an uncomfortable subject. "Do you have the right to vote when you turn 18?" I asked. They nodded. "Wrong," I said. "Voting is a privilege. The way you can tell it's not a right is because it can be taken away from you. Commit a felony and you lose your 'right' to vote. In some states, you can even lose your 'right' to life if you commit a serious enough crime. They inject poison in your veins and revoke that 'right.' What you have as a citizen of this country is privilege and opportunity and you are the envy of the world."

The sullen looks did not go away. School would be over for the day in a few minutes and they were getting restless, eager to be free. 

"What are you willing to pay for the incredible good fortune of being born in this country?" I asked. "Do you owe something to your country for the gifts passed to you upon your birth, gifts that set you apart from most of the world and gifts that were purchased with decades of sacrifice? Should you behave in gratitude? Should you dedicate a portion of your life to ensure those gifts are passed to your children and your children's children?

Or are they gifts you feel are your rights, gifts that you deserve and there is no need for a 'thank you?'" 

Well, they had no answer. However, I suspect I know what that Sultanavici villager might have to say on the subject. As for me, I've seen the All-Volunteer Army and, despite the new jargon, I suspect it's like any peacetime force: they are fat, are self-involved and train as the mission rather than for one. The Great Spirit help us if we have to fight in some country like Bosnia where air superiority would mean little. We would prevail as we are the best trained and best equipped in the world. However, it would be an initial bloodbath as it was in the beginning of two world wars.

Also, as the social gap grows between those in uniform and those not, how possible does it become for our military to turn east when the country turns west? Could it really happen here? Could a military composed only of those who choose to serve choose something other than the will of the people?

Finally, does the privilege of being a U.S. citizen, an accidental act of birth for most of us, demand something in return? This country did not happen accidentally. Men died in 1776 for the privilege of determining their own destiny free from another country's influence, a grand experiment in citizens determining what government they should have. Men died in 1861 to preserve the strength of a united government over the dictates of a state.

Men died in 1914 and 1941 because there were those who would take from us those gifts we made for our children. Men died in 1951 and 1965, right or wrong, believing that a world power would take those gifts if given the opportunity.

There are still those in the world who would take what we have. We are stronger than them at present. However, we are an insulated country, far more concerned with what the Dow did today than with what world leaders did. According to current report, over half the adults in our country are overweight. We think we have a right to compensation if we spill hot coffee in our lap and are indignant when standards aren't adjusted to accommodate those who can't meet them. I keep remembering the words of William Wallace to the Scottish noblemen in the movie "Brave Heart":

"You think your privilege exists to provide you with possession," he said. "I think your possession exists to provide the people with freedom and I go to see that they have it."

We are free and privileged and altogether unique as a people on this planet. We are the royalty of the world. I wonder if we'll reach a state much like the French royalty at the beginning of their revolution, wondering why the breadless don't eat cake while the hordes tear down the walls.

And I wonder, just like Kelley, if I've been in the sun too long. 

--Jake----------------------------------------------------------------------


Jake,

Your experience with the high school kids is amazing. I could almost feel their silence.

--Bill------------------------------------------------------------------------


Bill,

It's frustrating. I got the distinct impression they had not the slightest idea what I was talking about. The notion of service or duty or even gratitude toward past generations is simply beyond their world. 

Sigh.

--Jake----------------------------------------------------------------------

Jake, [From Bill]

Ahh, yes, but they were listening. And they were learning. To the young it is all about growing up and getting respect. And the respect they want the most is from the old guys who have already been there and back again.

Especially if those old guys are within their own families. It is years and years before they learn that the only respect worth having comes from inside. 

I found your words powerful, and if that is what you were saying they were dumbfounded.

If the opposite were true they would have just laughed you out of the room. One thing's for sure, though. If a mandatory national service "draft" were put to a vote, it would never pass. Not with 18 year olds voting these days.  No chance.

I'm hoping that a few of the DeAnza students kick in on the subject, but I'm willing to bet a paycheck that they don't.

--Bill------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bill, [From Jake]

[In reference to my comment that this would never pass a popular vote] Yep, 
I think you're right. Furthermore, I think there is a fundamental flaw in thinking that simple mandatory national service will instill discipline and a sense of duty and responsibility. When I hear people talk or write about that, it appears to me they have some mental image of all kids going through some kind of Marine boot camp or Heinlein's version of the Mobile Infantry in "Starship Troopers." 

Fact is, the Marines presently are the only ones who have kept the faith and, interestingly enough, are the only service meeting their recruiting goals.

In today's military, which certainly would be more demanding than a "national service" outside the military, there is a whole collection of standards depending upon who has to meet them.

Not only would a "national service" have to pass the voters, the notion of a tough, sacrificial, personal rite of passage would also have to pass. The fact is, we already have 12 years of mandatory service for our children. It's called public school. Look at what that has become.

--Jake----------------------------------------------------------------------

Jake, [From Mike]

Doesn't the Selective Service System still exist? Far as I know, it still does, kids still register (males at any rate) and all it would need was an awakening.

Granted, the likelihood of National Service system being created is exceedingly remote; however, kick-starting the Draft would be less of a problem (especially since it still remains aimed strictly at males) and, if we could at least initially create some form of National service Corps that is voluntary to start with, there might be a chance to get the ball rolling.

The service corps could even be designed as an alternative to prison for young offenders as well as the altruistic. As it gains momentum and respect, we move it over to the mandatory column a decade or so down the road.

Certainly the logistics of creating such a system are daunting to say the least, and it would take years of practice until it was reasonably functional, but my hunch is the long term benefit would be worth the huge investment at several levels. Can you imagine what it will take to mobilize the US if we ever get into a big ruckus like WWII again? Most of the military training facilities we once had aren't just closed, they are completely gone. If we build something like a national service corps and build/devote facilities to them, they could become the convenient stepping stone to mobilization should the need ever arise.

And no, I don't see kids coming out of this system acting like Mary Poppins (certainly not the first few generations to be sure), but at least we break the cycle of gang life and these kids get a chance to see another side of life besides watching it on TV. They won't come out singing the Sound Of Music, but then they probably won't go back to gang life, either.

Oh and among the rules in my camp would be some banning cellular phones, pagers, boom boxes and personal listening devices of any sort within the troops, period. Christ, this generation would go into shock (and so will their parents)!

--Mike----------------------------------------------------------------------

Jake (and Mike), [From Bill]

I can justify a "draft" for civilian national service, but my justification would have little to do with instilling a sense duty, honor, national bonding, fraternal order, patriotism, discipline, etc., etc. Some of that would happen, in certain jobs, but by and large the community service that would actually get done would be much less worthy of fond memories. My justification would have to rest on a clear need for the services of you (and in some cases that need clearly exists). The notion that the work would be good for the young worker is too general for me to discuss without getting down into the details that do not even exist.

I think the late BT Collins would have agreed. His California Conservation Corp was a great example of a civilian group of kids with military type bonding and pride. But if his corp had been a bunch of conscripts, instead of volunteers looking for a way out of the get, he would have been beside himself. He would have been unable to wash out and send home two-thirds of the kids the moment they started complaining. He would have been unable to retain only the toughest and the brightest, so they could look back on their duty with pride.

On the other hand, I have always been in favor of a military draft. An all-volunteer Army is a pathetic idea, even if it turns out it can fight better than any Army that has ever existed (which remains in doubt). I want a citizen Army in my country. So did our founding fathers.

--Bill------------------------------------------------------------------------